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Quizzing the First Age: Now Begun!

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Imp of Umbar
  Tyrhael Posted: 17/Oct/2008 at 1:25pm
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Quizzing the First Age

"At the first rising of the Sun above the earth the younger children of the world awoke in the land of Hildórien in the uttermost East of Middle-earth that lies beside the eastern sea; for measured time had come upon earth, and the first of days, and the long awaiting was at an end." (HoME5, Quenta Silmarillion §82)

Greetings, and welcome to the long-awaited 'C of H Quiz'! Rather than being solely focused on Children of Húrin as both that informal name and its placement in the CoH Forum would suggest, this Quiz will be widened to focus on the entire First Age. Now, you may notice the quote above, which is here to illustrate a point — the term 'First Age' is not intended to represent the nigh-600 year portion during the Years of the Sun, but both that and the 450 Valian Years prior to that (starting at the awakening of the Elves at Cuiviénen in 4550 Years of the Trees).

As the First Age is longer than the following ones, you should find a wide variety of topics to quiz on, limited not by place but only time — both Aman and Middle-earth (naturally including Beleriand) are viable, whether you wish to ask about the music of Ulmo's horns or the craftmanship of the gates of Gondolin.

The other constraint, of course, is what sources you are allowed to choose questions from — based on the choices of the capable Quiz Master and Quiz Mistress, Beren Camlost and Ethuil e-Daur., the resources selected have been Children of Húrin (of course), Unfinished Tales ( meaning the 'First Age' portion)  HoME 1-4, and the portion Quenta Silmarillion of the published Silmarillion.

The format of this Quiz will be that the person who guesses the previous question correctly can ask the next question; here are some rules:

1. Only one question at a time
2. The correct answer must be verified before posting the next question
3. All Plaza rules should be followed
4. If two days have gone by and no one has guessed the question correctly, the asker needs to provide a hint
5.Citations / quotations must be used to confirm the answer
6. Participation / correct answers are tributed

It will be up to the two QM's to enforce the rules and contact participants if need be (e.g. if a hint isn't provided after the two days, &c.), but we wish you luck and hope you enjoy!

halfir and Tyr
Co- Admins - Lore

Having the honor of the first question just to get this rolling, How did Tuor find the Gate of the Noldor (Annon-in-Gelydh)?
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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 17/Oct/2008 at 3:06pm
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Utuili'n aure! Aiya Eldalie ar Atanatari, utulie'n aure {The Silmarillion- Of The Fifth Battle}
 
The day has come!
 
And indeed it has, the day of the First Age Quiz. So participate, enjoy , and be rewarded for your victory by receiving five bonus points each time you get a correct answer.
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Messenger of Minas Tirith
  Earendin Posted: 17/Oct/2008 at 4:34pm
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An elf named Voronwe lead him there when he realised that he was a messenger of Ulmo (I hope that this is what it is about. It is a while since I read the Silmarillion)
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 17/Oct/2008 at 9:11pm
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Tuor found that Gate by mistake. He met noldor on his way and asked do they know where that Gate locates and they answered that they had just walked through it and then they showed it to Tuor.
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Linguist of Lothlorien
  Mithrandír Posted: 18/Oct/2008 at 7:09am
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To verify the answer, here is the quote:

'But when Tuor had lived thus in solitude as an outlaw for four years, Ulmo set it in his heart to depart from the land of his fathers, for he had chosen Tuor as the instrument of his designs; and leaving once more the caves of Androth he went westwards across Dor-Lomin, and found Annon-En-Gelydh, the Gate of the Noldor which the people of Turgon built when they dwelt in Nevrast long years before.' (Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin.)



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Elrond Half-Elven
  Aigronding Mordagnir Posted: 19/Oct/2008 at 3:18am
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Yes, Lycan is correct - and Mithrandir.  Tuor did find the gate on his own and the elves verified it ( Unfinished Tales, Of Tuor and His Coming to Gondolin ).  Lycan, please ask the next question.

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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 19/Oct/2008 at 3:33pm
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Lycan- you have been tribbed.Thumbs%20Up
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 12:06am
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Well thank you very much. Hmm what abo this easy one:


Turin said to his mother that he believed that his father was dead. Why he said that?
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Esquire of Edoras
  Rægenhere Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 12:40am
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Because if he were alive he nothing would stop him coming back to help them and cast out the Easterlings over running Dor-lomin.

'Then i think he is dead,' said Turin, and before his mother he restrained his tears; 'for no one could keep him from coming back to help us, if he were alive.'
The Departure of Turin, CoH.
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 12:42am
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Well that obviously is awaited answer. Good job Lenwe and go ahead and ask next question Thumbs%20Up
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Esquire of Edoras
  Rægenhere Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 12:49am
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Thanks LycanThumbs%20Up

What did Ungoliant do that caused Melkor to become so afraid?
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Potentate of Isengard
  Tiâmat Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 1:00am
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She swelled to a huge and hideous shape

And still she thirsted, and going to the Wells of Varda she drank them dry; but Ungoliant belched forth black vapours as she drank, and swelled to a shape so vast and hideous that Melkor was afraid.
Of the Darkening of Valinor, The Silmarillion

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Esquire of Edoras
  Rægenhere Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 1:19am
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You got it TiâmatThumbs%20Up Nice work, your turn to ask the next question.*rubs floor with sleeve and hand it over*beam
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Potentate of Isengard
  Tiâmat Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 1:32am
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Here we go again! LOL *takes shiny floor and checks her hair*

Who was told that childish knowledge would not be of any aid to him?
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Architect of Erebor
  Drifa Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 1:44am
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Húrin?

"You have learned the lessons of your masters by rote," said Morgoth. "But such childish lore will not help you, now they are all fled away."
"This last then I will say to you, thrall Morgoth," said Húrin, "and it comes not from the lore of the Eldar, but is put into my heart in this hour. UT, The Words of Húrin and Morgoth
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Potentate of Isengard
  Tiâmat Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 1:48am
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Yes, yes ... I think you're in tune by now to my questions LOL *hands over shiny floor*
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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 1:59am
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Lenwe, Tia, and Drifa, you have been tribbed!Thumbs%20Up
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Architect of Erebor
  Drifa Posted: 20/Oct/2008 at 2:05am
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Thanks halfir!

Yep, getting to know you real well, Tia*grin*

What did ballads name an abode because of much mourning and sorrow?

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Architect of Erebor
  Drifa Posted: 21/Oct/2008 at 12:30pm
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Did I scare you all off?
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Healer of Minas Tirith
  Catran Posted: 21/Oct/2008 at 2:24pm
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The Tents of Murmuring?

Songs name that dwelling the Tents of Murmuring, for there arose much lamentation and regret, and many blamed Feanor bitterly, [...] (BoLT, The Flight of the Noldoli)
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Architect of Erebor
  Drifa Posted: 22/Oct/2008 at 12:01am
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Yay Cat!  That is correct!  Your turn!
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Healer of Minas Tirith
  Catran Posted: 22/Oct/2008 at 2:01am
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Thanks Drifa!

What three were named the most magic players of the Elves?
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 22/Oct/2008 at 3:54am
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My turny beam

Dairon, Tinfang Warble and Ivare
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Healer of Minas Tirith
  Catran Posted: 22/Oct/2008 at 7:24am
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Thumbs%20Up Your turn.
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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 22/Oct/2008 at 4:49pm
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Catran and Lycan you have been tribbed.Thumbs%20Up
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Elrond Half-Elven
  Aigronding Mordagnir Posted: 23/Oct/2008 at 1:21am
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*Goes to perform his duty of Quiz Master and goes to PM Master Day Lycan*
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 23/Oct/2008 at 1:28am
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Tseesh what a busy people Nuh%20uh *g*

He was only the second mortal to see these. Who and what?

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Politician of Umbar
  Túrin Posted: 23/Oct/2008 at 2:04am
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That would be Turin who saw the marvels of Menegroth, which before only Beren among mortals had seen.
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 23/Oct/2008 at 2:15am
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Yep so it is Turin, your turn Thumbs%20Up
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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 23/Oct/2008 at 2:40am
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Turin you have been tribbed.Thumbs%20Up
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Politician of Umbar
  Túrin Posted: 23/Oct/2008 at 2:57am
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Many thanks, good halfir!

Turin once gave three things to another in one stroke.  What were the three?
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 23/Oct/2008 at 3:37am
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Hmmm could it be...

He gave to Sador love, pity and the knife (which was least).

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Politician of Umbar
  Túrin Posted: 23/Oct/2008 at 10:23am
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True indeed!Thumbs%20Up
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 24/Oct/2008 at 1:49am
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Wehee thanks Turin Thumbs%20Up Let's stay in subject Wink

Some could see this between those two if looked carefully enough.

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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 24/Oct/2008 at 2:39pm
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Daywalker: You hve been tribbed.Thumbs%20Up
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 26/Oct/2008 at 1:57am
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Thankies halfir. Can't be sure if peeps have just forgotten this thread but anyway..these two are mortals in this question Wink
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Guardian of Imladris
  Mar Fireblade Mordagnir Posted: 26/Oct/2008 at 6:02am
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Well, I haven't forgotten this thread.  If I wasn't the Mistress, I would answer the questions.  beam
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Elrond Half-Elven
  Aigronding Mordagnir Posted: 27/Oct/2008 at 2:59am
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Yes, I look always myself, waiting to poke someone if i see they haven't posted, etc,m and I agree with you, Mar Saucy%20wink beamhalfir, would it be all right if Mar and I answer questions to keep the thread up only if we see it's been days and no one has posted ?
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Guardian of Imladris
  Mar Fireblade Mordagnir Posted: 27/Oct/2008 at 3:56am
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Daywalker, no one has guessed the answer at all, but you might want to post a hint.  Wink  Just cause they aren't postin', doesn't mean they aren't lookin'.  Nod
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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 28/Oct/2008 at 5:18pm
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would it be all right if Mar and I answer questions to keep the thread up only if we see it's been days and no one has posted ?
 
Aig and Mar- you're managing the thread and if you think that's what's needed I have no problem.Thumbs%20Up
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Healer of Minas Tirith
  Catran Posted: 28/Oct/2008 at 11:32pm
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Just a note - I have been looking, just haven't found anything that fit. Does the 'those two' in the question refer to Turin and Sador?
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Elrond Half-Elven
  Aigronding Mordagnir Posted: 29/Oct/2008 at 12:22am
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Okay, halfir, Mar and I will remember that Nod Thumbs%20Up
 
Catran, I'll go PM Day and ask him to come by and give a hint to you Nod Thumbs%20Up
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 29/Oct/2008 at 2:45am
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Catran - Nopes, it doesn't refer to them. Though you're right that those two are indeed persons and that something refers to that what can be seen when looking them both carefully. Dunno if that made it any easier beam
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Architect of Erebor
  Drifa Posted: 29/Oct/2008 at 3:09am
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Hm, I am glad you asked that question, Cat.

Some could see this between those two if looked carefully enough.

For Túrin reminded me of Beren," she said at last. "They are akin, I am told, and their kinship can be seen by some: by some that look close." UT, Túrin in Doriath
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 29/Oct/2008 at 3:18am
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Finally Thumbs%20Up (it was confusing question yes but clear enough since there was correct answer finally *g*). Your turn Drifa Smile
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Architect of Erebor
  Drifa Posted: 29/Oct/2008 at 3:26am
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Aye, thanks Day!

Who's deaths were worth gold in weight?
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Captain of Umbar
  Daywalker Posted: 31/Oct/2008 at 2:21am
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Is singular but from the memory..did't Turin promised to pay ransom in heavy gold for the death of Mim's son? So..Khim? 
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Architect of Erebor
  Drifa Posted: 31/Oct/2008 at 11:36pm
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No it is deaths, not death..Try again!
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Healer of Minas Tirith
  Catran Posted: 31/Oct/2008 at 11:57pm
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Hmm, I'm not sure but how about Blodrin Bor's son's brothers - though I don't think they were his brothers they were Hurin's offspring?


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Architect of Erebor
  Drifa Posted: 01/Nov/2008 at 12:57am
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No, that is not correct either.  Here is a hint.  There were others who's lives were not worth as much in weight.
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