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"Riddles were all he could think of. Asking them, and sometimes guessing them, had been the only game he had ever played with other funny creatures sitting in their holes in that long, long ago, before he lost all his friends and was driven away..."
~ Tolkien, The Hobbit: Riddles in the Dark

Greetings hobbits and visitors from foreign lands, and welcome to Riddles in the Dark!

If you are reading this right now, you are showing a particular interest in challenge. Well my friend, be prepared for just that and more in this game. Just be sure to read and abide by the rules below as you test your knowledge and wisdom at riddles!



Rules for this Game
1. The first person to reply with the correct answer gets to ask the next riddle.
2. The riddle DOES have to be Tolkien or Middle-earth oriented.
3. If the riddle is not answered correctly within 72 hours, the "riddler" should post the answer and ask a new riddle.
4. If the last riddle has been solved and no new riddle has been posted within 72 hours, then a new riddle may be asked by anyone.
  1. Rivvy Elf's Avatar
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    Nope, not Maeglin, son of Eol. Maeglin also is not of the race of men. His brother-in-law also is not Arvedui, the last king of Arthedain

    Maeglin convinced Turgon not to sally his forces and defend behind the walls of Gondolin. Though he did fight in the Nirnaeth, not serving as regent in case King Turgon died, he survived.

    Here's another hint: Somebody in Lord of the Rings has the same name as the riddle's answer (but different fathers).
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    Faramir, son of Ondoher
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    Yup, good job Rainelle. The floor is yours.

    The Wainriders and the Haradrim invaded from east and south. Ondoher, King of Gondor, had 3 children, 2 male, 1 female, who was married to the King of Arthedain, Arvedui. Ondoher's youngest son, Faramir, as per duty and custom, was supposed to remain in Minas Tirith should things go badly for Ondoher and the heir on military assignment. This was how the rulers of Gondor could maintain the line of kings (specifically the line of Anarion). Faramir was officially now second in line for the throne.

    Things indeed went badly as Ondoher and his heir got "Pelennor Fielded" by the Wainriders (failure to setup a battle line as the Wainriders arrived far sooner and far nearer than expected), dying immediately. By mid-battle, it was discovered that Faramir's dead body was disguised among those of the Eotheod, allies of Gondor and ancestors of the rohirrim. The leader of the Eotheod was the one who discovered Faramir's dead body.

    Faramir had no children, therefore his line ended. In fact, almost all of Anarion's remaining male descendants died that in that catastrophic battle. This led to the King of the Arthedain, Arvedui, Faramir's brother-in-law to try and claim the throne of Gondor (and Arnor too), which would never had happened had Faramir stayed in Minas Tirith. Arvedui was not given the Throne of Gondor due to politics, and the throne was given to the one remaining descendant of Anarion, Earnil II. His son, Earnur, had no heirs when Earnur was tricked into a duel with the Witch-King.

    A relatively little known battle, that was a major catalyst to the fall of the line of Anarion and Gondorian kings, until the ascension of King Elessar, descendant of Arvedui and Isildur.

    Arvedui died on one of Cirdan's the shipwright elven ships, when the ship was destroyed at sea. This event would have shocked many elves at the time.

    In the Lord of the Rings, as you probably know, there's some guy named Faramir, son of Denethor, who ironically married another second-in-line person who hid themselves among the cavalry (but survived), named Eowyn. I wonder if Tolkien did this on purpose or by coincidence.
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    #204
    Knowing him, he probably did it on purpose lol. Gimme a bit to think up a new riddle!
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    Arvedui, hidden by the Snowmen of Forochel as he fled from the might of Angmar... of course. How could I have forgotten? I was looking right there, I thought the answer was Ondoher, didn't realize it may have been his son... and with all the hints you've given us... this is embarrassing.

    Excellent riddle, Rivvy! I'm delighted to see what beautiful riddles people have made up lately, and what creative answers have been found to meet the challenge.

    Congratulations and well done, Rain, for solving this riddle!
    Last edited by Nolewen; 20/Oct/2016 at 05:22 PM.
    Elmehtar, Sperewigend

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    Congratulations milkshake! ♤♡♧◇
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    Yikes guys, I'm sorry, I totally forgot to think up a riddle for this. Sorry for the delay!

    "Friend" to an Ainur, devourer of light.
    Many of my descendants still inhabit of Middle Earth, bothering all they meet.
    I was around in the First Age, but eventually my endless hunger destroyed me.
    Who am I?
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    I assume the answer is Ungoliant, monstrous "friend" of an Ainur (Melkor), who devoured the light of the Two Trees, Telperion and Laurelin. Her descendants included the evil giant spiders that disturbed so many people throughout the years, such as Shilob and the great spiders of Mirkwood who still inhabited Middle-earth in the Third Age, bothering all they meet (like Bilbo and the Dwarves, and Sam and Frodo). Some say that in her endless hunger she ate herself at last.
    Elmehtar, Sperewigend

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    Darn, that was fast! I was hoping the 'ainur' instead of 'melkor' would throw people off lol. Goods job though!
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    Thank you, Rain!

    Next riddle:

    I thought eyes were better
    And did not believe in bad news;
    I shouted at the people saying the latter
    And spear and bow were at my use.
    Called a sneakthief, I was cursed
    After a threat of name and number;
    The deserter I had pursued
    And was shot just shortly after.

    Who am I (my name isn't mentioned in the book!)?
    Elmehtar, Sperewigend

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    Frodo, RotR

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    Saeros of Doriath
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    I'm afraid that's an incorrect answer, Aran.
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    'Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!'

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    Is it the larger, soldier Orc (unnamed) whom Frodo and Sam overhear squabbling with a tracker Orc (also unnamed), during a chapter of Return of the King, called 'The Land of Shadow' ?

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    Turin
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    It must be the killer bunny
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    Rivvy's right!

    No, just joking.

    Cassie, that is indeed the correct answer! Please go ahead and post the next riddle!


    I thought eyes were better
    "I reckon eyes are better than your snotty noses"
    And did not believe in bad news;
    "Who says there's bad news?... That's cursed rebel-talk..."
    I shouted at the people saying the latter
    "shouted the soldier [at the tracker saying there's bad news from the battles]"
    And spear and bow were at my use.
    "The other was a big fighting-orc... He also had a bow at his back and carried a short broad-headed spear."
    Called a sneakthief, I was cursed
    "You cursed peaching sneakthief!"
    After a threat of name and number;
    "I'll give your name and number to the Nazgûl..."
    The deserter I had pursued
    "The big orc, spear in hand, leapt after him [the deserter - the tracker running away from the army]"
    And was shot just shortly after.
    "But the tracker... put an arrow in his [the big orc] eye as he run up, and he fell with a crash."

    Who am I (my name isn't mentioned in the book!)?
    "the larger, soldier Orc (unnamed) whom Frodo and Sam overhear squabbling with a tracker Orc (also unnamed), during a chapter of Return of the King, called 'The Land of Shadow'' (Quoted from Cassie's post above; the rest of the quotes are from The Return of the King, The Land of Shadow)
    Elmehtar, Sperewigend

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    When you stated his 'name' was not in the book, it suggested to me that your answer was not a well known hero, Nolewen. And the use of the term 'sneakthief' sounded very Orcish to me, for it could not be the other likely culprit of such language : one named Gollum/Smeagol.

    So I set to re-reading Orc chapters in ROTK. Always a delight ! I am impressed by the efforts you employed to find such an anonymous identity for your riddle.

    But here is another attempt by me;

    Gleaming waterfall of gold
    Dwelling long in caverns cold
    Love I found was took by grief
    Stolen and held far beneath
    Withered heart brought hero home
    Forced me to chose one alone
    Fire took the past from me
    Darkness promised pain to be
    He that fell to lies and left
    Returned to find me removed of breath ..

    Who am I ?

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    Beleg Cuthalion
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  20. Ercassie's Avatar
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    Sorry but no.

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    Gorlim gorlim, sold out Turin when promised gorlim's wife back in return

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    Gorlim gorlim, sold out Turin when promised gorlim's wife back in return
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    Nope.

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    Mim the Petty Dwarf
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    Wrong again. The answer is from the First Age though so you are all on the right track.
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    Gwindor of Nargothrond
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    Getting closer now, Aran. Gwindor is actually referred to in part of my little rhyme

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    Finduilas
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    There is more than one Finduilas. Can you clarify which one you mean ?

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    Finduilas, the daughter of Orodreth of Nargothrond.
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    That is the correct Finduilas. Congratulations !

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    But of course... Thanks Cassie

    I shall be back in 3 days to post the next riddle...

    Until then, please read up A LOT ON THE HISTORY OF GONDOLIN AND ALL OF ITS' INHABITANTS!
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    I fell but I rose,
    I knew but I went,
    I lost and I won,
    In the end for naught.

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    Is it Glorfindel ?

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    Nay! Not Glorfindel
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    Hint please, e.g., is this a bad guy or a good guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drifa View Post
    Hint please, e.g., is this a bad guy or a good guy?
    Happy new year Drifa! This person was both good and bad! Hope that helps!
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    Happy New Year to you too, Aranadhel!

    Nice hint! I guess I will guess Maeglin?
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    Drifa - Nope... but the person is male *hint*
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    Hm, not the son, how about the father, Eöl?

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    Drifa - Now that would be too easy eh? Lol... not the correct answer as well my friend
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    Its been a little while since anyone guessed at this, but in a bold moment, I shall take another wild stab at it. Aran, is the answer by any chance Tuor ?

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    I was thinking Turin, perhaps?

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    Neither Turin nor Tuor.

    But it's heading in the right direction. *whistles*
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    Here's a long-shot... Sauron (Gorthaur, Sindarin)?

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    Both good and bad eh...my guess is Hurin himself.
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    It must be the Killer Bunny

    <Not again, Rivvy!>
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    Nay to all three guesses....

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    Is it Eärendil?
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    Not Earendil.
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    it's a real head scratcher all right. fell/rose, knew/went, lost/won, but for NAUGHT. argh argh argh

    Cannot think of anyone whose labors were for naught, in the end. . .
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    Isildur?
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    Finduilas - Why Isildur?
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    Finrod Felagund?
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    It may be a longshot, but I was guessing:

    I fell but I rose,
    (escaped from the Drowning of Númenor)
    I knew but I went, (founded in ME the Númenórean realms in exile)
    I lost and I won, (cut the ring from Sauron's hand, but refused to give it up)
    In the end for naught. (slain by Orcs)

    asëa aranion / kingsfoil / athelas
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    Aran, if Findy got the correct answer, then the floor is hers. She can respond "because pikachu", and she will still get the floor based on rule number 1.
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    Thanks, Rivvy! I don't know if it's right or not, but just to be sure... because Pikachu!! On the other hand, it could be the most ridiculous answer ever and Aran's just wondering how I could have possible come up with such a goofy guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finduilas Faelivrin View Post
    It may be a longshot, but I was guessing:

    I fell but I rose,
    (escaped from the Drowning of Númenor)
    I knew but I went, (founded in ME the Númenórean realms in exile)
    I lost and I won, (cut the ring from Sauron's hand, but refused to give it up)
    In the end for naught. (slain by Orcs)

    I prefer it when someone guesses the correct answer and explains the reason why he/she said so because at the end of the day it helps to improve all of our knowledge about LOTR and everything associated with it.

    I will not entertain all these pikachu travesty. Ever.


    Finduilas - I fell but I rose (lost his home of Numenor but gained a new realm in ME - Gondor.)

    I knew but I went (marched with the Host of Men to their doom in the Last Alliance to Mordor.)

    I lost and I won (his younger brother, Anarion and father, Elendil killed but he took the One Ring as a token of the Pyrrhic victory after cutting it from Sauron's hand.)

    In the end for naught (only 2 people made it out of the Disaster at Gladden Fields as Isildur was betrayed by the Ring and killed, his 3 elder sons and the remaining Dunedain were slaughtered.)

    Your 3rd & 4th lines were correct but 1st & 2nd weren't that accurate for my riddle but nevertheless after 5 months (since last November lol!) you have beaten all the other pretenders and thus the answer is indeed Isildur for he was also a descendent of Silmarien of the House of Elros in Numenor whose father Earendil was born in Gondolin.




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    Thanks, Aranadhel. Have fun with this one! (You're all welcome for the ear worm, by the way. )

    Ain’t no mountain High enough!
    Not funnels, but tunnels:
    Delved by corrupted elves.
    Definitely not at the back.

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    Congratulations Findy ! And that is a mighty good riddle there

    If I may start off the guessing, is it Angband ?
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    Aw, thank you and thanks for making a guess, Ercassie! *hugs* I was starting to feel dejected after two weeks of no guesses.
    Angband is not the correct answer, but it's a good guess.

    I'll give a hint, since it's been so long:

    The name of this place sounds like
    where you might find
    an old coot in a rocking chair
    smoking a corn cob pipe.
    (although in reality, it's nothing like that at all).
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    I can imagine an old coot in a rocking chair smoking a corn cob pipe in...

    The Mouth of err... the... um Nurn Mountains!
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    Not "mouth" and not "Nurn."
    Any more guesses?
    I'll drop another hint tomorrow
    after a guess or two more.


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    umm...Shire?

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    The Mysterious Mountains?
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    Utumno?


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    Michael Delving?

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    Rivvy, I assume you meant Misty Mountains? The place we're looking for is in the Misty Mountains, but it has a name, two words.
    You guys are SO close!!


    Think again: SOUNDS like a place someone would sit, smoking a pipe, in a rocker?

    The last line in the original clue reads:

    Definitely NOT at the back. (What's the opposite of "back"?)
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    I suppose the last hint gave it away, and after checking all place-names with "front"... am I correct in guessing you are referring to the Goblins' Front Porch?

    Ain’t no mountain High enough!
    Not funnels, but tunnels:
    Delved by corrupted elves.
    Definitely not at the back.

    The name of this place sounds like
    where you might find
    an old coot in a rocking chair
    smoking a corn cob pipe.
    (although in reality, it's nothing like that at all).


    The Front Porch was located in the Misty Mountains; it's an entrance to tunnels delved by goblins (according to some opinions, elves corrupted by Morgoth), and "not at the back" refers of course to the nickname "Front Porch" given to it by the goblins.

    I think the hint was directed at the word "Porch", a place where one could expect sometime to find pipe-smoking in a rocking chair.

    An excellent, very challenging riddle, Findy!
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    Yippeeee!!! You got it right, Nolowen! From Robert Foster's Complete Guide to Middle Earth: Name given by a group of Orcs of the Misty Mountains to the cave forming the main entrance to their tunnels. The Front Porch opened on to the High Pass, and was built some time in the years immediately preceding TA 2941.

    Your turn now.
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    Thank you, Findy! Here's the next riddle, I apologize if it's not nearly as amazing or difficult as the ones before it, but hopefully you'll enjoy it nonetheless:

    Accustomed to the Dark Realm's weather
    House in cold matter
    Use bones for to move hither and thither
    In the wind they smelled danger.

    Who are they?
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    They must be the legendary Snowmen of Forochel that may or may not literally be made out of snow.
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    A particularly easy riddle for anyone familiar with my Queen of Ice Jadis Snowsword. The Lossoth, also known as the Snowmen of Forochel, are indeed the answer for my riddle. They were said to have been accustomed to the freezing weather of Morgoth's realm, house in snow, move on ice with bones tied to their feet, and warned King Arvedui upon the arrival of the ship sent by Círdan that they smelled danger in the air. Also, my dear Magnate Jadis of Angmar grew up among the Lossoth... Great thinking, Rivvy!

    Just wondering, what did you mean by "legendary" and "may or may not literally be made out of snow", or were you joking?
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    The better question would be: What makes them not legendary since they still survive regardless of their living conditions :P?

    As whether or not they were made of snow... Well, stranger things have happened in the Middle Earth universe :P. In a world of talking purses, huorns, Giants, talking swords, and possibly spirited mountains (Cruel Carahadras), would it truly be a surprise?

    Here's my riddle:

    I miss the good ole' days, when things were orderly and symmetrical :(
    Now, most don't even know where I am anymore :(
    I'm not found in the Thain's Book :(
    I missed all the action in the Wars of the Jewels :(
    Good luck even finding me in Quenta Silmarillion :(
    Maybe those tall fair men saw me, but I don't know :(
    I'm not sure I even exist anymore :(
    But I'm sure you can recognize me if you find me :)
    That is... if my name is true :(

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    Okay, this is a flying guess, because Jeopardy is about to come on TV and hubby is waiting... How about Thranduil? I couldn't find his name in the Silmarillion index.

    You can stop laughing now (but, hey wasn't he a cutie in The Hobbit?).
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    Not Thranduil. I'm pretty sure he's in the Thain's Book. Good guess though. He's also a 'who'.

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    Could it be Tol Eressëa?


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    Closer, but no pipeweed cigar for you, Moriel :P. I'm pretty sure Tol Eressea can be found in Quenta Silmarillion, and Tall Fair Men for sure saw Tol Eressea, either through the light of Avallone (sounds tasty), or when they paid a friendly, totally-not-seeking-to-conquer, visit with all their fleets.

    First Hint: Obscure geography
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    Is it Island Ferry? (In the Sea of Belegaer. Looks kinda symmetrical too.)
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    You're on the right track Finduilas, but you're going to have to find something more obscure.

    The Island Ferry appears in Quenta Silmarillion, being that its used to ferry the elves to the west.

    Second Hint: Rocky, not in a lonely sense.
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    Is it The River Taeglin ?

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    Nope, Ercassie. The answer is not a river.

    Hint Three: ROY G BIV
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    Aghh! I was confused... then I remembered that name from my youth... Roy G Biv is the colors of the rainbow (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet). Rainbow Arch... Heavenly Arch - the name of one of the kindreds of the Gondothlim (Arch of Heaven, the Arch, the Rainbow). HoME: The Book of Lost Tales.

    Good riddle, Rivvy! (if I'm correct, lol). It took looking up and cross-referencing five different books to find this. If I'm wrong - it's an even more clever riddle!

    Edit: Wait, I just realized there's more than one Rainbow reference. Not sure if I picked the right one, since it's an "it" not a "who."
    I don't want to change it now, since I already posted it.
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    You are on the right track, Finduilas, but no. The Heavenly Arch is not a geographical feature, and they participated in the Wars of the Jewels.

    Hint Four: This mountain range is similar to Pikachu in a way
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    Well done on working out that Roy G Biv clue, Findy ! I had no idea !

    Is it the Cirith Ninniach, also known as Glorfalc, Rivvy ?
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    It's not a person but a place right? Is it the Yellow Mountains in the far south-west of Middle Earth? Yellow, like Pikachu. Might have been seen by sailors out of Numenor.
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    Nope, not the Glorfalc, Ercassie

    Good job Lantaelen! It is the Yellow Mountains. The floor is yours :)

    I believe the below sketch is something Tolkien drew.



    Notice how it looks nice and orderly. This happened shortly after the lamps fell and Valinor decided to put an entire ocean between them and Melkor. But once the Valar and Melkor had a physical altercation, the map changes to this:



    Notice that the Yellow Mountains have been pushed so far back Southeast, its not even visible on the new map! Thus, we're not even sure they exist anymore. Doubtless, they missed all the action in the War of the Jewels. They missed all the action in the Thain's book too, which later becomes LOTR. Perhaps the Numenoreans may have sailed and found out that the mountains definitively existed in the Darklands, but who knows for sure? Maybe they are under the sea or are plateaus/hills.

    They may not even be actually yellow. Cause a lot of "yellow" mountains on actual Earth look more greyish-whitish.
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